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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:42 am Post subject:

Gemee,

were you looking for Precious, the calico cat? There are a lot of new postings on petfinder from Wild Orphan or something like that.

Ingrid

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:37 am Post subject:

Thanks so much for thinking of me, Ingrid. In my heart of hearts I feel that Southern animal Foundation (the hospital that administered fluids after she was rescued), adopted her out, instead of returning her back to the Magazine St rescue drop-off site that ARNO used.
The reason WHY I feel strongly that this happened, is becuse I later found out that the owners had NEVER requested a rescue of this cat, (naivity, ignorance, etc.) and when it was finally rescued on Oct 20th, it probably was marked as "owner abandoned".
Ann Bell, who is the director of SAF, is known for her views on animals that were "left behind", and she feels that owners that deserted their animals, are not owners that deserve to have the animals back. I was told this by someone that worked with her, at the clinic.
You know, a part of me would agree with her action of adopting Precious out, under the circumstances. It sure as heck must have been an immensely heart-rendering thing, to see this cat come in, starving and dehydrated, after being trapped inside an apt for almost 2 months, with no owner requested rescue infomation tagged on her.
Ingrid, I am in the position to now see both sides of the "argument" on whether this kitty should have been given back to ARNO, sent to Tylertown, and then entered on PetFinder. I have seen the hopeful elation of the young 16 year old owner, when I told her that I thought we were nearing in to finding Precious (after her teacher posted a Lost ad on PF). I then watched her slip into dispair as the days wore on, and Precious had simply "disappeared" at Southern Animal Foundation, with no record of her.
The young girl and her mother, when questioned about WHY they had not requested a rescue, said that they "did not know who or how". What ticks me off now is that I found out that the mother had her sister and brother-in-law from Slidell come in EARLY Oct. and take pictures of the outside of her apt. By the way, the water was fully receded from the area, by the latter part of Sept.
With the above information in mind, you can see why I am "torn" in my opinion, and "understand" IF this cat was adopted out.
I really stopped looking for her about a month ago, when I saw that all roads came to a dead-in on this cat. Someone knows where she is, but they will never talk
By the way, I KNOW that she did not succumb, because one of the rescuers that assisted the director of the hospital give fluids, told me that two days later she stopped by the hospital, and Ann Bell (the director) said that she was "much improved and now eating on her own".
On a side-note, this 1 year old cat was not spayed, so I have a hunch that once she improved, this hospital spayed her and THEN adopted her out.

Ingrid, thanks again. You are one of the very,very special people in Katrina animal reuniting, that has made a big difference! Thank you!

Posted Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:39 pm:

P.S. That's Wild Animal Orphanage,...in Texas. They got a bazillion of cats from Best Friends Tylertown. 300+

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:

Hi,

I feel sorry about the 16 year old girl who wanted her cat back. Maybe her parents didn't want her back but she did for sure.

My dad did not take care of our dog when I was between 6 and 12 year old . I wanted to walk the dog because he was most of the time in a kennel, but he did not let me walk the dog. He beated the dog very badly (Jacky was a beautifull male shepferd) a few times and when he did not want to care for him anymore did go to a shelter and told them to euthanise the dog. Sometimes when I feel bad , I still cry for the dog because I could not help him. I was to shy to go to a shelter and ask for help. This is the first time I tell it to someone, only my husband knows.
Very strange my father acted that way, because towards my mother and me, he was always friendly, never beated us and he even cried when he saw a sad film. Never understood . What happened 32 years ago did influence in many ways my life. I love animals and you know it's not always easy. I cried reading the sad Katrina stories but I try to help...

Ingrid

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject:

i know everyone has different opinions about the circumstances people went through during katrina. i know i was beside myself when i found out the city had flooded, and that my parents could not find cocoa when they were evacuating. i know if had been with them i would not have left without cocoa. i was living uptown and i had evacuated the day before. my parents had my 90 yr. old grandparents with them, and we thought everything would be okay. well it wasn't. i was extremely hurt and angry at my parents for leaving her behind, but i never lost faith. when cocoa returns, she will be coming to jackson to live with her new family: myself, my fiance, my rescued adorable dog, and my beautiful rescued kitten. i have not lived with cocoa for several years, but when i was younger she was my cat, now we are just being reunited. i cannot wait to have her in my home. she loves other animals as my parents have 2 dogs and a bird as well. please keep us in your prayers. i know this story may upset some of you, and you may be thinking that we shouldn't get cocoa, but i have spent the last 6 months agonizing over the fate of my wonderful cat. i have cried many nights and have given up just about the same amount. but in the back of my mind i knew she was a survivor. she is 11 yrs. old and declawed and she made it this whole time! talk about a miracle cat. thank you to everyone for your help in getting her picture out and her story out. but it's not over yet, it won't be over until she is in my arms.

thank you again,
very sincerely,
kacey (marshkl)

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject:

marshkl i do truely believe you are doing everything to get cocoa back.
you have from the beginning. i pray that this time finally that this is
truely cocoa that has been spotted.

please keep us updated and make sure someone is leaving food and
water near your parents house or cocoa will wander off looking for food.

have you found someone who can get their right away to try to trap her ?

also, is there any way you can take time off and get down there before
next tuesday and stay in a hotel for a few days ? or even get down
their early one day and stay all day ?

i am so excited for you that i would hate after all this time for this
opportunity to slip through your fingers. i know and believe you have
cried all this time wanting a miracle to happen.

i pray this is your miracle.

as far as the comments on the other cat (precious) i am very saddened
almost sick that the family had people their to take pictures of their
house but could not have them go inside to get the cat !! or get back
themselves to get their own cat. ingrid might be right. it might be a
case of the parents not really wanting the cat back ? Crying or Very sad

i feel bad for the girl. but maybe it is best that the cat was adopted out.
sometimes there are so many variables it does leave you torn as to
what to think.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject:

kacey, I have watched you over all these months, trying everything in your power to try to find Cocoa and get her back. Hopefully you will have her in your arms soon. There is no doubt in any of our minds, that you have done everything you can to get her back.
With the case of Precious, I have some problems why the family, (daughter included) couldn't not have taken some action, or made some calls, in this nearly two month period.. Like I stated earlier, the mom had her sister go and photograph the outside of the apt in early Oct. but forgot to ask her to check inside the apt. She said that she just "assumed that Precious was dead".
The family learned a tough lesson in all of this. If there is a "next time" I hope they do things different.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject:

Kacey, we're with you - never have stinky cat treats held such promise!

There is certainly no doubt in my mind, either that you love your animals and never in other circumstances would have left them behind.

Stories such as yours should educate people that you can never know what the future will hold, and you can never say something would never happen because you would never let it. That helps us feel safe, but it is an arrogant assumption.

We in other parts of the country cannot fully appreciate the real magnitude of the situation until we balance it with the understanding that it happened to people just like us, and yet still lives were lost, people are still missing, and cats are still coming back.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject:

Kacey, MAKE CERTAIN that someone leaves a large bowl of Cocoa's favorite dry food under that house, to keep her close to a food source. Don't rely on her catching rats, because this is VERY dangerous. Someone could leave out rat poison, a rat could ingest it and die, and Cocoa could eat it.....
PLEASE see to it that food is being left out for her.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject:

thank you again for your kind support! most of you have been helping me since i cameto this board in september. i would have lost all hope if it were not for y'all keeping my faith alive. many many thanks to you all!

we left two big bowls of her favorite dry food out for her by our house (it is across the street from where we think she is living). she was spotted running from our driveway into the other house. i am going to be able to get there on friday, but that is the best i can do unfortunately. my new job has not been that understanding about taking time off tie up loose ends, even for fema insepctions! (of course i went anywy!!)

well just keep praying and i will post a picture of us together very soon!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

Kacey, it certainly would not hurt to leave a bowl ALSO under the house that you think that she is staying at. Sure you will also be feeding the rats, but you want to keep her in the same area that she has been staying in.
Remember to take a high power flashlight with you, when you go home. How long will you be able to stay Friday?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject:

i will do that as well! we are staying through fat tuesday so i will have time to see if i can coax her out of hiding, if not i will call arno to help me as well! thank you so much for your suggestions!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject:

Kacey, is the neighbor that spotted her, a pretty reliable source?

The reason I mention a flashlight, is because believe it or not, I have better luck at night finding cats with a flashlight, than I do during the day. When a light beam hits a cats eys at night, they look like two little lighbulbs, and really give off a eery glow. By directling your flashlight (high-power) in to the darkness, you should have no trouble locating any nearby cats at night.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject:

who knows, maybe when cocoa hears your voice calling her and sees you she will come to you. I'm sure she would prefer her nice warm home with food instead of being out in the cold eating rats. Good luck!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject:

it was actually my mom that spotted her. she knewit was cocoa beacuse of the grey on her tail from her age. she spoke with the neighbor that lives next to the house and she said that she had seen rats in the house and had seen cocoa around for awhile. cocoa has always been skittish about coming inside when we call her, she is very independent. loving when she wants, independent and aloof the next minute! she has such a great personality. obviously a strong one to get her through this!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:

kacey make sure you bring a trap with you. and a cover for it.
and a carrier and a cover for that too.

after you set it cover it except for the open and not near the front.

only the back 3/4's of the trap. trail food from the outside of the door
going inside until you get to the back so that she will eat a little and
walk into the trap and eat a little more and walk more into the trap.

you do this by putting a little right outside the door...a little right inside
the door and more a little further inside the door and when you can't
reach drip pieced through the top moving more and more towards
the back and put the can of smelly food all the way in the back past
the trigger.

if you are not sure what i mean print this up and when you get the
trap from whoever you get it from ask them how to set the trap and
about covering the trap with an old sheet or something and about
putting the food in past the trigger. test the trigger to make sure
you set it correctly and to make sure the trap is working.

also, if you can bring a carrier with you that would be great.
you could also put out the carrier with food in it all the way in the
back and cover the carrier so she can't see out the holes on the sides
of the carrier only leaving the door exposed and open. the carrier
will have to be closer to you so that you can sneak up on the carrier
if she goes in it to eat and close the door behind her. BUT don't come
at the carrier from the door end.... if she turns around while she
is in the carrier to see if anyone is out there she will see you walking
towards the carrier. come at the carrier slowly and quietly from the
the end that is covered or the sides that are covered so she can't see
you. cover it with something like a towel that she can't see through.
i've caught cats both ways with the trap and with the carrier. but with
the carrier i have always had to be really close by...thats the downfall.

don't wait too long to try to trap her. you might want to just set up
the traps and the carrier on friday when you get there. even if you don't
get her that first day because lets say she gets in the carrier and out
without you being able to close the door on her that just means the
next day she will still be hungry and will trust going into the carrier or
maybe the trap. so just set both up with the carrier closer to whereever
you are going to stand and the trap much further away but close enough
for you to keep an eye on it.

good luck and i hope and pray you will be able to get some help
with this while you are down there.

it sounds like you are staying from friday to tuesday ? that's great !!!
lots of prayers to you !!

****** cocoa please come home to mommy !!******

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